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What others are saying:
Ferrari are probably not using TC.
MS might be left foot braking out of corners, emulating the 'illegal' McLaren
third pedal of a couple of years ago, and there might be some software
which works off lateral g/throttle/brake sensors to limit engine power
under the combination of these three things. That could simply be
called 'rev-limiting' software and be deemed legal. Maybe that's what
HHF heard. Remember Benetton in 1996/97, with Berger & Alesi?
They had several races where they simply streaked past three rows of the
grid at the start - impossible without TC. And they never got
caught. It's easy to do with software that 'eats itself' after one
application, eg at the start of a race. Lets' not forget a couple
of other things. MS has the best feel for any car right now and
has had for a few years - that's why he can storm the tracks. MS
also married HHF's old girlfriend, so it's no surprise HHF gets upset
when the guy that stole his gal also leaves him for dead on the track.
And what about Jos the Boss? He was able to keep his car on the
track ahead of MS and Arrows probably don't have TC. So stop whining and
put the foot down! - Dave - Australia
Lyngkilde basically said what i was
thinking, i also would like to mention to all the ppl
saying that why would Ferrari risk using TC, well i think its because
they know that even if they get caught (highly unlikely, which is why TC
is coming back), Ferrari know that there are a softer set of rules for Ferrari,
when it comes to the FIA regulations (remember Sepang 1999 and the
illegal barge boards)
(remember Interlagos 2000 and the wing infringements, only DC was
penalised) - N-ona- mu$ - Australia
Of course Ferrari is not using Traction
Control. If they were, they would have *FANTASTIC* starts, and they do
NOT. Look at last year - Mika had better starts than Michael at every
race. And this year, Barrichello's starts have been AWFUL, while
Coulthards have been fantastic. If anyone is using it, it is McLaren.
Furthermore, if Ferrari had illegal traction control, do you really
believe they would also install it on Saubers car? Are you people crazy?
If you are going to break the rules, you keep it SECRET.
Some people cannot face the truth that Ferrari have the best car this
year. Tough luck, get ready for a year when Ferrari dominates - Peter
- USA
I read the comments of - Lyngkilde -
Denmark and Shahrukh - K - India . These two bozos know nothing
about F1, that is apparent. They think that Ferrari can get away with
anything, eh? Then *WHY* was Michael Schumacher disqualified from 2nd
place in the World Championship in 1997 when he hit Villeneuve? Hmm?
*WHY* does Barrichello have such bad starts if Ferrari has traction
control?
Nice try, guys. Face it, Ferrari has finally built a great car, and you
two are SORE LOSERS.
Grow up, and take your defeat like *MEN*, not like a bunch of whiny
losers - John - USA
Yes they do !!!! Just look on today's
race in Sepang. From 11th to 1st, in 6 laps, and then go ahead by almost
1.min. when the rain is like monsoon................ ??????
Barrichello is NOT a rain specialist, but he did almost the same.
This is impossible without traction control - Lyngkilde - Denmark
I believe Ferrari may be using TC as i
believe other teams also are, although i'm not to fond of Frentzen i do
respect his opinion when it come's to this as he knows what he's talking
about, to make such a comment publicly you'd have to be sure of what
your saying. As someone already wrote i think the Mclaren's will start
to perform better come TC. infact i wonder if they have built the car
around the concept of TC knowing that it will perform better with it but
not so well just now with the knowledge that the majority of the season
will be run with TC. Also even if these comment's are not true i'm sure
the FIA could hold an investigation, it's a bit strange they've not said
that they will, aferall that's what they are there for.
The reason Ferrari would be so opposed to traction control is that if
they are using it they would want to keep that advantage by ensuring no
one else could use it - Ross - Scotland.
I do not think that Ferrari used traction
control during the past season and therefore am of the opinion that they
won the championship fair and square. If one consider that while driving
for Benetton, MS was always a very good starter and then look at last
season where one will notice that even though he grabbed a couple of
poles, he messed up each and every one of them with very poor starts
during the races. That is very uncharacteristic of TC.
As for this season, we will have to wait and see but again I think that
there is too much at stake to be caught with illegal gadgets. I do not
think for one minute that they are using means that the others are not.
They are just doing it better.
Consider this: look at this year's qualifying times. They are very much
faster than last year even though technical changes have been brought in
to reduce lap times. I doubt very much that engine development can be so
dramatic to improve lap times by up to 5 or 6 seconds (remember the
technical changes was supposed to have knocked of about 3 seconds) in
the space of 4 months unless steps have been taken to alter the power
delivery on to the track. If you want to call that TC then so be it.
Bear in mind that at Malaysia the first 12 cars on the grid all beat
last year's pole and in Australia the last car to officially qualify
would have been on the second row last year, then it must be concluded
that whatever Ferrari is accused of doing, they are all doing it -
Johan - South Africa.
Traction control or Engine mapping?
That really is the question. In terms or legality or illegality I
believe the system that Ferrari developed and uses, along with it's
customers is in fact legal. They would not risk being caught or
have any damage to their reputation especially as defending champions.
Last year does show that the system Ferrari used was not the magical
traction control that eliminated wheel spin, look at Michael
Schumacher's starts and the fact that they had wheel spin. Ferrari
engine governance was most beneficial in the turns and as anyone can
tell you the noise signature of a Ferrari is the most distinctive on the
circuit.
Whatever system that they use and I am sure other teams had developed
similar systems within the legal boundaries, the reintroduction of
traction control was the only way to prevent any further innuendo within
the sport for this matter - Steven
P - Australia
Lets assume for a moment that Ferrari had
been able to map the engine to provide some form of torque resistance
capability. Would they then leave this in place for client engines, I
doubt it, particularly given the risk of exposure with Barcelona so
close.
Lets then look at the reasons for Ferrari to oppose traction control.
Ferrari had/have a very strong engine in a well sorted chassis and the
best driver in the field. No-one had less to gain from introducing TC.
Whatever benefits they gained came at a huge cost in lost competitive
advantage with the drivers input being less significant and the intrinsic
balance of the car being compensated for by TC.
If it were just Ferrari then one would have to question possible pushing
of the legal envelope but I don't believe they would pass that down
through client engines.
On balance, no, I don't believe that what Frentzen heard was TC at work
but perhaps a characteristic of Ferrari's engine note under load
- Geoff H - Australia
Of course Ferrari are using traction
control. How else would they match up to the pace of the McLarens. I
think everybody knows it but HHF has been the first one to voice his
opinion. The only resort for Ferrari was to do illegal things and have
managed to win the championship by doing so. I just have one question
for them: Are they happy by winning the championship unfairly? The truth
will be out when they lose the advantage come Barcelona. MARK MY
WORDS!!!
- Shahrukh - K - India
Here we go again,
Mr. Frentzen has nothing else to de as inventing an idea again against
Michael Schumacher.
Let´s be reasonable about building rumours. We all know, that Michael
and H.H have never been the best friends so it's easy to create a phantom
to damage reputations. He is not only accusing Ferrari, but even his
personal rival, Michael Schumacher. Are we forgetting already how
hard this man worked and how many times he risked his health and life
only to bring back the scratched glory of Ferrari? So let's be
logical and not polemic. The Parcque Ferme is the place is the
final place, were such accusation might raise an eyebrow or two.
Ferrari and Schumacher deserved the title and they worked long and hard
to develop a car that can win - Freddy P - Germany
I think this question will be answered in
Barcelona when all the teams will be using traction control. If Ferrari
will loosce the advantage then I guess we can say they are (were) using
traction control - Rok F - Slovenia.
Honestly, I don't know, but in my opinion
they don't. I can not see Michael Schumacher, Jean Todt or Rubens
Barrichello cheating. The Ferrari world is small. The F1 World is small
too and I can't visualise those three risking their reputation for 4
races. HHF can accuse everybody which is passing him (see McLaren was
accused having a sort of TCS called CANOE SYSTEM 2 or 3 years ago). In
fact HHF (which was one of the few gentlemen drivers ) did retract the accusation
against Nick Heidfeld taking a defensive position. If YOU watch
the tape from Australia You can see MS car smoking the tires like hell
but I couldn't see McLaren, BAR, Jordan or Williams. So based on
HHF INTUITION I suppose those teams already have a hidden traction control. IF
you'll be in MICHAEL SCHUMACHER place ARE YOU GOING TO RISK EVERYTHING
like JOHNSON? My best regards - Marian - Romanian living in the US
Yes I do think that Ferrari is using
traction control and they have all reasons to do so: the championship
for manufacturer. Remember... they where trying for the past 14 years...
and any way of gaining this championship was taken by Ferrari... legal
or not (by FIA rules) - Jacques G - Canada.
I have very little doubt that HH is
correct in his deduction. Ferrari are quite likely to push the envelope
of legality very hard. They do have almost guaranteed
"forgiven" status by the FIA. And, lets face it,
they have successfully overcome a number of breaches without penalty
already. I would even go so far as to say that somehow I believe that
Max agrees with HH. I am however puzzled as to why the track marshals do
not pick up the association (misfiring plus good acceleration)? I
did not pick it up at Melbourne myself but then I was probably not at an
appropriate corner!! Bottom line though, do not discount
Nick Heidfeld's brilliant drive with Kimi R close on his heels (for his
debut as well). Well done Sauber - Ian M - Australia.
Well, this issue can hardly be called
debatable. I certainly don't think that Ferrari are using traction
control. Why would they? After all, if they were to be caught the
consequences will be grave. Frentzen had better learn to face it. His
car is not good enough. He is just being a bad sportsman. I don't think
he liked being beaten by Sauber. It hurt is pride and I don't really
blame him, but speaking so stupidly wont do him any good. Plus if
Ferrari and the other cars equipped with Ferrari-hybrid engines were to
be using traction control they would surely be caught in the post-race
car examination. Remember Mika Hakkinen finished first in Austria but
McLaren were denied team points after they failed the post-race
examination.
No. We shall only see traction control when Spain beckons the F1 season
- Yaman - India
I don't think Ferrari would use illegal
meanings to win races. They would be putting too much on the line. As
for them being against the reinforcement of traction control, I just
think that because they have a strong engine, and most of the other
teams don't, it would not benefit them to have traction control
reintroduced as much as it would if traction control was not
reintroduced - Dan A - Brazil
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